(National Sentinel) Presidential lawyer Jay Sekulow and Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace had a bit of a testy exchange over whether or not President Donald J. Trump is under investigation for obstruction of justice.
Trump tweeted his disgust last week after the Washington Post ran a story claiming special counsel Robert Mueller had expanded his Russia probe to include potential obstruction by Trump involving his dealings with fired FBI Director James Comey.
But Sekulow disputed that, drawing pointed questions from Wallace, as reported by Zero Hedge:
When Wallace asked whether or not Trump was under investigation, Sekulow responded that the President had not been notified of any, and that his tweet was in response to a Washington Post article based on five anonymous sources who allegedly leaked to the paper.
Sekulow: Nothing’s changed since James Comey said the President was not a target or a subject of investigation.
Wallace: Well, but, you don’t know that he isn’t under investigation now, do you.
Sekulow: No one’s notified us that he is, so I can’t read people’s minds, but I can tell you this – we have not been notified that there is an investigation of the President of the United States.
Afterward, Wallace pressed Sekulow over an earlier presidential tweet noting he relied, in part, on a memo from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to fire Comey, then later said he was planning on doing so anyway.
Sekulow: There is a constitutional issue when you have this scenario. The President made a determination based on consulted advice he decided ultimately he’s the commander in chief – he gets to make that decision that James Comey had to go.
Then it really started to get interesting. Sekulow prefaced his response with “Here’s the constitutional threshold question,” which Wallace interpreted as an admission of an investigation:
Here’s the constitutional threshold question Chris – the President takes action based on numerous events, including recommendations from his Attorney General and the deputy Attorney General’s office. He takes the action that they recommended, and now he’s being investigated by the Department of Justice… So he’s being investigated for taking the action that the AG and deputy AG recommended him to take, by the agency who recommended the termination. So that’s the constitutional threshold question here.
Wallace then pounced:
Wallace: You just said that he’s being investigated.
Sekulow: No, Chris… Let me be crystal clear so you completely understand. We have not received nor are we aware of any investigation of the President of the United States. Period.
Wallace: Sir you just said two times that he’s being investigated!
Sekulow: No… I just gave you the legal theory, Chris, of how the constitution works. If in fact it was correct that the President was being investigated, he would be investigated for taking action that an agency told him to take. So that is protected under the constitution as his article 1 power. That’s all I said, so I appreciate you trying to re-phrase it.
Wallace: Jay, the tape will speak for itself. You said that he is being investigated. And its’ not just being investigated for firing Comey, there’s also the question of what he said to Comey when Comey was still the FBI Director.
Sekulow: Chris, let me be clear. You asked me a question about what the President’s tweet was… that’s what you asked me. And I responded to what that legal theory would be. So I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth when I’ve been crystal clear that the President is not and has not been under investigation. I don’t think I could be any clearer than that.
It appeared as though Sekulow was attempting to explain that Trump was responding to the Post story in his tweet regarding an alleged investigation – not that he knew he was actually being investigated.
But do you see how screwed up all of this has become?
Trump is, by no close margin, the most maligned president five months into his first term than any president before him; it’s so convoluted that even his attorneys are having trouble explaining things to a vulture-like media, which has been complicit (including Fox News) in perpetuating all of the bogus narratives.
Sadly, it’s not going to get any better for Trump, and that’s the real tragedy: As he tries to deliver on his campaign promises, he’s going to be continually under siege by a hostile opposition within the Democratic Party, the “mainstream” media and, sadly, establishment Republicans in Congress.