Civil war warning: Immigration issue will tear America apart if we don’t split up peacefully now

Democrats, especially those vying for their party’s 2020 presidential nomination, have resolutely come out in opposition to POTUS Donald Trump’s extremely generous compromise offer on border security and immigration reform, proving once more they couldn’t care less about the safety and security of our country.

Even before the president finished laying out his proposal on Saturday, which included money for his sought-after wall along with border security technology (something Dems claimed all last week they supported) and three-year extentions for DACA recipients and others facing deporation, top Democrats including Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) were rejecting it.

Why? Because before any negotiations can begin on border security, Democrats insist, POTUS must cave and give in on his demands — which, of course, is an obvious political tactic aimed ultimately at giving the president (and the American people) nothing in terms of real border security.

This attitude was embodied by Sen. Kirstin Gillibrand (D-NY), who was in Iowa already this weekend for early campaign appearances.

In an appearance on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” Gillibrand hypocritically declared of the president’s compromise offer, “I don’t take him on his word on anything.”

“If he really cares about this, he would open up the government,” insisted Gillibrand, referencing the 800,000 government workers affected by the partial government shutdown. “It just shows a callousness that is unacceptable.” She called the offer “cynical.”

Really? So, Gillibrand wouldn’t trust the language contained in legislation — in print, for all to see?

Callous? The president? He’s the one who’s been attempting to get Democrats to the negotiating table for weeks now, while many of them either dismissed him outright or took to attending lobbyist-funded junkets in tropical climes like Puerto Rico.

There is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to Congress’ historic refusal to tackle our abysmal immigration situation, but the president can’t be blamed for any of it because lawmaking begins in Legislative Branch — unless, of course you’re Barack Obama and you know that you can create DACA out of thin air and get away with it because congressional allies and cowards will let you.

Vice President Mike Pence, who described the offer the president articulated on Saturday as a “good faith, common sense compromise,” appeared earlier in the hour on “Face the Nation.”

During “that meeting in the Situation Room, a week ago Wednesday,” he said, “the president looked at Speaker Pelosi and said, ‘OK, if I gave you everything you wanted, if I signed legislation funding most of the government, and had a 30-day extension on Homeland Security … would you give me funding to secure the border and a wall?’ And she said ‘no.’”

The way Democrats are behaving here should surprise no one. They were never going to agree to anything POTUS Trump offered. Why? Because this is the state of the Democratic Party today: Open borders, sanctuary cities, rights and benefits for illegal immigrants — all at the expense of border security and, when necessary, American lives.

And some of them want to carry this attitude into the White House in 2020, despite huge swaths of the country that are vehemently opposed to these policies, as evidenced by the mandate POTUS Trump was given to deal with these issues (which included construction of a border wall/barrier).

How can you reasonably expect to lead a country so hopelessly divided over a singular issue, especially one like immigration which, to the Left and Right, has become as politically explosive as slavery was in the 19th century?

There is not going to be any compromise on either side, so the next logical question becomes: How will it be possible, moving forward, to govern an entire nation that is so bitterly and hopelessly divided over a singular issue that one side sees as a law enforcment and cultural preservation issue while the other sees it as the civil rights movement of our time?

Answer: You can’t, regardless who becomes president.

Democrats have chosen illegal immigration as their hill to die on, politically speaking — but they may choose that in a literal sense, too, before all is said and done or, at a minimum, use it as an excuse to take to the streets against POTUS and his backers, especially if he wins again in 2020.

Conservatives feel just as strongly about this. We want border security and immigration law enforcement. We’re tired of the blatant lawbreaking, the disregard for American life, and the Democrat-imposed “sanctuaries” for people who have no legal right to be here.

Before it gets to a point where we’re actually killing each other over this issue, as we did over slavery, there is a better compromise: Give Democrats their own country to govern, and let conservatives have theirs.

North-South, East-West, whatever the divide, it should happen, and soon. Or we could let regions of the country, groups of states, form their own governments. Whatever it takes.

We can’t ‘solve’ this immigration issue. The Democrats refuse to let that happen. And they will continue to use the issue to divide the country until we reach the breaking point.

If we don’t make this bold choice and soon, there will be a civil war over it, plain and simple. And if America falls, the world will blow up. Better to go our own separate ways than to destroy ourselves. — Jon Dougherty

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16 Comments on "Civil war warning: Immigration issue will tear America apart if we don’t split up peacefully now"

  1. I’ve been saying for a year or so now………….”When’s the civil war start”?

  2. Yep. Blue States and Red States should go their separate ways.

  3. Since Lincoln trashed the Constitution ,especially with reference to the 10th Amendment, each state ( = COUNTRY) has been treated as a province, totally subordinate to the central government. Time to change that back to the original concept, and let “birds of a feather apply.”

  4. The problem is there is no way to divide up the country by red-blue states, because the real division is urban-rural.
    CW2 will involve cutting off the power, water and food required to keep a modern city alive.
    There will be massive suffering, Bosnia X Rwanda on steroids.

    • James Carpenter | January 21, 2019 at 11:53 am | Reply

      Those who haven’t thought about CW2 might play out should inform their understanding with the likes of Nassim Taleb’s “Antifragile”.
      The Bosnia X Rwanda suffering begins almost immediatley should current “on-time” deliver systems and/or electrical power distribution falter. And the cities, the metastacizing centers of Leftism are most vulnerable in real time.

    • James Carpenter | January 21, 2019 at 12:02 pm | Reply

      For an easier understanding of how the West and East coast centers of Leftism might suffer most in “Bosnia X Rwanda”, see Nassim Taleb’s “Anitfragile”.
      Regionally, even city-by-city in the heartland, today’s “on-time” distribution systems make for specific and extreme vulnerabilities should those systems falter or cease altogether.

  5. We need to just go to War. Until the Anti American Democrats are defeated for good. America is in Danger.

  6. And Putin/Russia are laughing up a storm. Ever since Reagan broke up the USSR, they have been doing their best to return the favor. Looks like they found the magic recipe – give the anti American left enough money and news coverage and simmer… and here we are.

    Let’s give the democrats New York and California (FYI I’m in Cali so I’ll have to move) for an experiment.

    -Start by building a Great Wall around both states so the libs can’t escape.

    -Set the tax rate at 70% for everyone so they can have their socialism.

    -Ensure there are no weapons or police or border enforcement- let everyone that wants to come in to come in, but you can’t leave once there.

    -Give everyone a government job for $15 per hour and assign them all an 850 square foot apartment to live in (rent free of course).

    -There should be no gasoline/natural gas or coal usage allowed. All energy must come from solar/wind power

    – Only allow electric cars / with a preference for driverless cars because the citizens can’t be trusted to drive/navigate correctly.

    -All politicians must be Democrats forever and no other different opinions or thoughts will be tolerated, ever!!

    This seems to me their definition of utopia – let’s give it a shot. I give them less than 6 months and they would be screaming to come back to our side

  7. This time it’s not regional. Leftists are ingrained in every state in the Union, and I doubt seriously if they would be willing to give up their positions in the states, like Georgia, where they control the major cities. Other than beating them into submission and forcing them into centers how would be separate?

    • Mad, I know none of this is rational, democrats don’t have to think anymore – they just feel… I think the only way to really pull it off is at the end of a gun barrel.

      If they don’t go peacefully, we have the power to fix that too.

      And to undine – you’re probably right not to give them all of California, but there are so many screwed up people all over this state (look at what the cretins voted in as our governor), that it would be difficult to decide which half to keep!!! Sad but true

  8. Don’t give them all of Cali, split the state (happening right now; A few other states are joining the splitting effort to.

  9. Trump is at a severe disadvantage and Nancy Pelosi knows it. He actually cares about Americans, where she couldn’t give a rat’s *** how many Americans suffer or die under her leadership. He needs to find a way to make her refusal to deal hurt her. Personally.

  10. Cut out the cancer that stretches in a narrow band from Atlanta to Norfolk, including Charlotte. It is overwhelmingly negro and, therefore, communist. Remove the Northern Virginia suburbs filled with carpetbaggers. Get rid of Florida south of Orlando. Hand St. Louis over to Illinois. After this you have an overwhelmingly pro-liberty Dixie. The few pockets of evil that are left, Houston city, New Orleans, Memphis and some middling city cores will be left isolated and impotent. Virginia N.C.and Georgia will lose between 10 and 15% of their land area as well most of the degenerate swine dwelling within their current borders. A very small price to pay A country that includes everything from Mo, Ky. WV and Va. in the north and Texas and Oklahoma in the west would have population larger than Russia and an economy as big as the European Union. How can anyone say that it would not be viable?

  11. Time for all Conservatives to get their Concealed Pistol License and ARM UP !! The Lefty Liberals already disarmed themselves… The last Civil War the Democrats started was to keep their slaves. this one they will start to keep their base indentured. Short war with one side being armed.

  12. I doubt the Dems even want their own state(s). They want to subjugate EVERYBODY in the manner of good Communists everywhere.

  13. There is no need to break up the continental United States just because a cancer has been found. That cancer is the Democrat Party and the cure is to simply cut this evil out of society in any means necessary. Show is for what it is and then kill it with the necessary antidote. America has had enough of the Democrat Party being a destructive force of evil. Democrat voters will soon come to realize that they have been lied to and then come to their senses.

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