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Giuliani warns: ‘You can’t believe what’s coming out’ regarding ‘shocking crimes that go to heart of our republic’

By Jon Dougherty

(NationalSentinel) Former NYC mayor and current presidential lawyer Rudy Giuliani responded to recent efforts to discredit POTUS Donald Trump Thursday evening in an interview with Fox News‘ Sean Hannity, saying that there is a lot of information “coming out” about the “Spygate” scandal and who was involved, strongly suggesting that some former Obama-era officials could be in for some legal trouble.

“Sean we’ve known this for a year… You can’t BELIEVE what’s going to come out. And this is a dramatic revelation now,” Giuliani said, implicating at least one former ranking Justice Department official.

“But Bruce Ohr should have been prosecuted and his wife [Nellie Ohr] for conflicts of interest ten months ago because we had a Justice Department that was completely warped,” the presidential lawyer said.

“The fact is that these are crimes that are shocking,” he continued. “These are crimes that go to the very heart of our republic. These people had a plan to stop the Republican candidate from getting elected and then they executed a plan to remove from office on false evidence, false testimony,” he told Hannity.

“The whole thing was made up from the very beginning and they sold it to 90 percent of our media. It’s a tragedy… The dimensions of it you still don’t realize,” he said.

“There’s plenty of evidence of what happened in Ukraine. Plenty of evidence of what happened in UK. In Italy. This was a massive conspiracy,” Giuliani warned.

In recent months there have been a number of revelations regarding the global nature of the scandal many have come to know as “Spygate.”

Ukraine

As early as January 2017, a week before President Trump was inaugurated, a report in Politico that was little-noticed at the time revealed a connection between the Ukrainian government and the campaign of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton:

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.



The piece began by claiming that Russia interfered in an attempt to help Trump. But as The Observer noted, when all partisanship is removed from the article, there is more to the Ukrainian angle:

Yesterday, Politico reported that the Ukrainian Government worked to aid Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential elections. The actions taken by government officials included disseminating “documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.”

Those documents implicated Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who worked as an adviser for now-ousted Ukrainian President Viktor F. Yanukovych. However, the concerns that the documents raised weren’t in fact over any quasi-Russian ties, though partisan reporting pushed his narrative. Rather, the documents raised the question of whether Manafort declared the income that he had received from the position. The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm co-founded by Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta, also conducted work for Yanukovych. However, the Manafort narrative not only painted Trump as pro-Russian, but also provided the Clinton campaign with a smear campaign while reaffirming its stance against Russia. It was in Ukraine’s best interest to tilt the election in support of Clinton, who strongly advocated for providing Ukraine with military aid and financial support in order to fight Russian separatists in the country.

In May, President Trump said that he instructed Attorney General William Barr to look into Spygate ties to Ukraine, as well as the UK and Australia, declaring, “Somebody has to get to the bottom of it.”

“For over a year, people have asked me to declassify. What I’ve done is declassified everything,” said Trump, adding “He can look and I hope he looks at the UK and I hope he looks at Australia and I hope he looks at Ukraine,” the president said.

“It’s the greatest hoax probably in the history of our country and somebody has to get to the bottom of it. We’ll see. For a long period of time, they wanted me to declassify and I did,” he added.

United Kingdom

One of the most sensitive aspects of Spygate, many analysts believe, is that the Obama administration figures involved in the scandal at the Justice Department, the FBI, and the U.S. intelligence community misused the “Five Eyes” alliance, an intelligence-sharing agreement between the U.S., Canada, the UK, New Zealand, and Australia.

In November, The National Sentinel reported that British intelligence officials and the UK government were scrambling to convince Trump not to declassify certain documents related to Spygate, likely over fears that British intelligence would be implicated.

As further reported by The Telegraph, MI6 says any disclosure would “undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.”

Allies of the president pushed back, demanding full transparency because they believe declassification of all documents related to the operation will reveal that Obama politicized the entire U.S. intelligence community, the FBI, and the Justice Department (as well as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court), which would spell big trouble for the key players and Democrats:

The Telegraph has talked to more than a dozen UK and US officials, including in American intelligence, who have revealed details about the row. 

British spy chiefs have “genuine concern” about sources being exposed if classified parts of the wiretap request were made public, according to figures familiar with discussions.

“It boils down to the exposure of people”, said one US intelligence official, adding: “We don’t want to reveal sources and methods.” US intelligence shares the concerns of the UK. 

In May, The National Sentinel reported that British intelligence briefed President-elect Trump about the “Russia dossier” compiled for the FBI by former UK intelligence official Christopher Steele. Specifically, the report noted that British intelligence officials discounted the dossier’s veracity:

A week before President-elect Donald J. Trump was inaugurated in January 2017, British intelligence officials contacted his incoming national security team, then led by National Security Adviser-select Michael Flynn, that they had ‘little confidence’ in the veracity of the infamous “dossier” written by former MI6 spy Christopher Steele.

Australia

As reported by The Daily Caller’s Chuck Ross in June 2018, former Australian diplomat Alexander Downer spoke in public for the first time about a barroom conversation he had with a minor foreign policy adviser to the campaign “that would serve as a catalyst for the FBI’s collusion investigation.”

In an interview with The Australian (paywall) April 28, Downer — former high commissioner to the United Kingdom — said he tasked another Australian diplomat with contacting the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, for the barroom meeting which took place around May 10, 2016, at London’s Kensington Wine Room.

Over drinks, Ross noted, Papadopoulos mentioned that Russia had information on Hillary Clinton that could be damaging to her.

But there was no indication during the short conversation that Trump himself was even aware of that information, Downer told the paper.

“By the way, nothing [Papadopoulos] said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton. It was just that this guy, [Papadopoulos], clearly knew that the Russians did have material on Hillary Clinton — but whether Trump knew or not?” Downer explained.

“He didn’t say Trump knew or that Trump was in any way involved in this. He said it was about Russians and Hillary Clinton; it wasn’t about Trump,” Downer told The Australian.

The Trump adviser’s reference to Clinton’s material was also very vague, Downer indicated. 

“He didn’t say dirt; he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was,” Downer said.

That encounter would later trigger the spying operation that the FBI called “Crossfire Hurricane,” a juvenile reference to a Rolling Stones song from the 1960s, Jumpin’ Jack Flash.

The Daily Caller noted further:

Downer sent a cable back to Australian government authorities within 48 hours of the Papadopoulos encounter. The information was not provided to the FBI until months later when Joe Hockey, Australia’s ambassador to the U.S., passed it to American authorities in late July 2016. He was prompted to share the information by WikiLeaks’ release of hacked DNC emails.

“Crossfire Hurricane” was officially opened on July 31, 2016. It has since folded into the investigation being conducted by special counsel Robert Mueller.

“During that conversation, [Papadopoulos] mentioned the Russians might use material that they have on Hillary Clinton in the lead-up to the election, which may be damaging,” Downer told The Australian.

But how did Papadopoulos, a young campaign operative eager to make his mark, come into the Clinton email information in the first place?

He told the FBI on Jan. 26, 2017, that he had a conversation on April 26, 2016, with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor, and it was Mifsud who claimed to have been in contact with Russian agents who said they had “dirt” on Clinton that included “thousands” of her supposedly lost emails.

It was a set-up.

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Italy

Reports in May of this year that were largely ignored by much of the media set off alarm bells for political analysts tracking the Spygate scandal, mostly because they came from such an unexpected place: Italy.

The National Sentinel reported:

In a surprise move earlier this week, Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte fired his country’s top three intelligence officials, reportedly because they cooperated with the Obama regime in its treasonous “Spygate” operation against the 2016 Trump campaign.

While the official reason behind the firings appears to be routine political housekeeping, word is in Italy that the firings are directly tied to the assistance those officials and and their agencies lent to the Spygate operation.

Bruce Ohr/Nellie Ohr

As many outlets have reported, the Ohrs were heavily involved with Fusion GPS, the political opposition research firm hired by the Democratic National Committee and the 2016 Clinton campaign to commission the Steele dossier — which, subsequent reporting has noted, was compiled using information gathered from Russian sources.

Nellie Ohr actually worked for Fusion GPS, while her husband, from his perch as the then-No. 4 official at the Justice Department, coordinated with her.

In August 2018, writing in The Hill, John Solomon noted:

Hundreds of pages of previously unreported emails and memos provide the clearest evidence yet that a research firm, hired by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to find dirt on and defeat Donald Trump, worked early and often with the FBI, a Department of Justice (DOJ) official and the intelligence community during the 2016 presidential election and the early days of Trump’s presidency.

Fusion GPS’s work and its involvement with several FBI officials have been well reported.

But a close review of these new documents shows just how closely Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, who reported to Obama-era Deputy AG Sally Yates, maintained contact with Fusion — and, in particular, its primary source, former British spy Christopher Steele — before, during and after the election.

Yates was fired by President Trump over an unrelated political dispute. Ohr was demoted recently.

Ohr’s own notes, emails and text messages show he communicated extensively with Steele and with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson. Those documents have been turned over in recent weeks to investigative bodies in Congress and the DOJ, but not reviewed outside the investigative ranks until now.

They show Ohr had contact with Steele in the days just before the FBI opened its Trump-Russia probe in summer 2016, and then engaged Steele as a “confidential human source” (CHS) assisting in that probe.

They also confirm that Ohr later became a critical conduit of continuing information from Steele after the FBI ended the Brit’s role as an informant.

In an interview with Fox News‘ Hannity, House Freedom Caucus member Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said: “Bruce Ohr is now the key to this.”

He added: When you read these emails, it’s Glenn, it’s Bruce, it’s Nellie, it’s Chris. It’s like these were all best buddies. They were like friends. They were all working together on this project of putting this dossier together that has been disproven.”

It’s not clear from Giuliani’s statements when the Trump administration or the Justice Department plans to act on information regarding Spygate, with its global tentacles. But analysts believe that the White House could time it for some politically advantageous moment in the coming months as the 2020 election cycle heats up and Democrats get closer to choosing their candidate.

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